What is your view on abortion and why? this is mine?

I believe abortion is wrong because I feel it’s murder. Pro-life has three key steps and those are what I’m going to be talking about. The first step involves showing that the unborn is alive. The second step is to show that the unborn is a separate individual from the mother. And the third step is to show that the individual is human.


Well the first step is very easy to prove. People who are Pro-choice usually say something like, “No one knows when life begins.” Okay, Gregory Koukl puts it this way, “The mother and father are alive, so are the individual sperm and egg. The zygote formed from their union is alive, as is the developing fetus during it entire term. Finally the child delivered is alive.” So tell me, when does it die and come back to life?


The second step, show that the unborn is a separate individual from the mother, is a scientific fact. These examples make it very clear;


1. Many woman carry babies with a different blood type then their own.


2. A woman may be carrying a male child.


3. The fetus has a DNA fingerprint distinct from the mother.


4. If the embryo of black parents is transplanted into a white mother, she will still have a black baby.


5. Early in development the fetus has its own hands, feet, heart, skin, and eyes.


People say all the time that a woman should be able to choose what happens to her body. Shouldn’t the baby inside that body have a choice and a chance to live? If you don’t agree with that do you agree that a man should be able to rape a woman if he feels like it? It’s his body, he should be able to do what ever he wants with his body. It doesn’t matter who else it hurts just as long as he has free choice to do what he wants with his body, right?


To show that the baby is human is simple, dogs don’t have cats and birds don’t have rabbits. Not a single species can beget a different kind of species, not even bacteria. So if you want to know what kind of being an offspring is, you can ask a simple question: what type of parents did it have? A baby can have a disability, but that doesn’t make it non human.


I believe abortion is wrong because it’s killing an innocent child who deserves a chance to live in this world. In the Bible God says if someone accidentally kills a child in the mothers womb that man should be put to death, what do you think he thinks of us doing it on purpose? I hope my examples are clear, if they aren’t I hope you still got the idea. If you believe in free will doesn’t the baby deserve some?

What is your view on abortion and why? this is mine?
Thank you for making it so easy to refute your points.





Yes, sperm, egg and zygote are living cells, but does that make them living entities? Of course not. None can exist long outside of the body. By using this standard, your hair and fingernails are also separate living entities, rather than simply being living cells that are part of you, and which would cease to live if removed from you..





Regardless of the differences between mother and potential child, the important fact which you have left off is that the fetus, at the developmental stage when 90% of abortions are performed, is totally incapable of surving outside of a womb. Thus, no matter the differences, it is inherently a part of the mother carrying it. At that point, it is simply a mass of cells the mother's body is allowing to survive. Until it is viable, it is an insult to humanity to say that it s equal to a human being.





Nw that I've shown you that you're wrong, I certainly assume that you'll be changing your mind, right?
Reply:may I share with you from the Catechism of the Catholic Church:





"Abortion"





2270 - Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person—among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.





"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you."





"My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth."





2271 - Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law: You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish.





God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves. Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes.





2272 - Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae," "by the very commission of the offense," and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law. The Church does not thereby intend to restrict the scope of mercy. Rather, she makes clear the gravity of the crime committed, the irreparable harm done to the innocent who is put to death, as well as to the parents and the whole of society.





http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt3s...
Reply:I believe everyone should have abortions.





The human population is getting out of control. We take steps to control the populations of other animals but we make no attempt to control our own populations.
Reply:abortion not good
Reply:I believe that pre-viability abortion is fine, and post-viability should be reserved for situations where the mother's life would be in danger were an abortion not to be performed.





I am able to believe this as I have no predispositions based upon mythology.
Reply:Abortion is completely wrong. Its killing the most beautiful creation us humans can give. I can understand why women feel the need to do it if they have been raped or arent ready but theres no excuse to kill it. Though you may not want it, another family who will be willing to give it love and a home do want it. And its called putting the child up for adoption.





In these times, population is getting out of control because the lack of responsibility on our part. Use a condom if you dont want or are planning on one. Condom, one of the greatest inventions. In 5 years the whole problem will be solved.
Reply:Abortion, as you say, is murder. Premeditated murder is murder in the first degree. So, if abortion is considered murder, then the woman should get life in prison OR the electric chair. Which one do you think she should get?
Reply:Sounds like you are here to preach and that you don't really want answers to your question, so I won't bother answering.
Reply:I completely agree!





however, I have met a couple of women who were raped and became pregnant. They had abortions, and I certainly don't judge them for that. I would allow it as well in cases of incest or if the mother's life was clearly at risk. But the vast majority of abortions have nothing to do with those circumstances.
Reply:God created a comfort zone for all mankind and called it ..Evil
Reply:What pro life people need to understand is that with pro choice people abortion isn't about the baby. It's about the mother.





I do not have to be an incubator if I do not want to. I do not have the right to force another woman to be an incubator. I do not have the right to take away safe medically supervised abortions and force desperate woman to seek unsafe services.





Oh yeah, I've educated my daughter about sex and taken care of birth control. It won't be my daughter in the abortion clinic or on a dirty table somewhere, it will be a "GOOD" girl whose parents and community and church will scorn her for her unplanned pregnancy and leave her no other choice.
Reply:abortion is murder.
Reply:I respect your opinion. As a Christian, I believe we have freewill to make our own choices, including abortion. We will all have our day, and only one judge. Anything can be abused, including abortions; there are ppl that use this as a birth control method, very sad, and this I don't agree with. There are circumstances where abortion is an option, and should not be denied. I agree that a baby is a separate entity from mommy, and have all the characteristics you listed #1-5. Actually, in the bible, it says, in the OT, that if a man should accidentally kill a baby while in the womb, he must pay a fine to the father; if he should kill the pregnant mom, then he must be put to death. Again, we, Christians, do not abide by the OT either way, nor should we judge. That includes marching outside abortion clinics, waving signs saying "Don't be a Murderer," we all have skeletons, and shouldn't be so quick to hand out scarlett letters to folks. My thoughts as a believer.
Reply:The Scriptures do not leave a person in any doubt as to God’s viewpoint regarding the life of an unborn child.





Properly viewed, the fruitage of the womb is a blessing from Jehovah God. (Psalm 127:3) The Bible shows that the Creator himself is lovingly aware of the developing human embryo or fetus. (Psalm 139:13-16) And for the protection of both the mother and her unborn child, he stated in his law to ancient Israel: “In case men should struggle with each other and they really hurt a pregnant woman and her children do come out but no fatal accident occurs, he is to have damages imposed upon him without fail according to what the owner of the woman may lay upon him; and he must give it through the justices. But if a fatal accident should occur, then you must give soul for soul.”—Exodus 21:22, 23.





Some Bible translations express the matter somewhat differently. But the original Hebrew text makes clear that in Israel a fine was to be imposed if a child was born prematurely due to injury done to the mother. And if the accident was fatal to either the mother or the child in her womb, then the penalty was “soul for soul.”





Has God’s viewpoint toward human life changed? After the Mosaic Law covenant was terminated, Jehovah caused this forceful reminder to be written to the Christian congregation: “You know that no manslayer has everlasting life remaining in him.”—1 John 3:15.





If anyone who has been responsible for the death of a fellow human wants God’s approval, it is vitally important for him to cease doing anything that would identify him as a manslayer. He must earnestly seek God’s forgiveness and then put on the “new personality,” one that upholds God’s righteousness and reflects loyalty to his commands concerning the sanctity of life. A genuine change is required.—Ephesians 4:24.





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Reply:You have laid out a very well thought reason for pro life. And while I feel that at conception, that is a child, not fetus, I am however:


Pro Choice








Although I feel that abortion is murder, there are no protests outside any prisons for those who have murdered there either.





Abortion is a sin, not a crime, and we cannot be judges of people, they will have to deal with the consequences of their actions in life.





I believe abortion should be allowed when there are circumstances surrounding the reason for it. i.e. Rape, severe birth defects.
Reply:the question is do people care ENOUGH about the issue to put their VOTE where their MOUTH is. Thats the question.





I have had them. All out of selfish convenience. As a Christian I've repented and cried many tears of thanks that God allowed me to still have children after that. The lionshare of women do it for convenience not 'life threatening emergencies'. It should be outlawed. If you dont want the baby, go through the 9 mos on a state sponsored health insurance program and give him/her to a family that cant have children. It would eliminate the need for invitro and save barren couples hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical fees trying to get pregnant. It would also make a woman think TWICE about getting pregnant again if its going to slow her ability to "party" afterwards.





and if you waffle about 'quality of life' of the child, check out this young woman...





http://www.abortionfacts.com/survivors/g...





Pro Life
Reply:If you are pro life then you are responsible for the death of 12 loved and wanted children each time you "save" a fetus. http://www.prolifeismurder.com


Discernment is a valuable tool when dealing with the Bible and your beliefs. God uses abortion every day in the form of miscarriage. That would make him a murderer by your standards. And when God says that he knew you in the womb, it does not stop him from miscarring you. There are 300 descriptions of murder in the Bible and none even resemble abortion. There is not one word in the Bible that says abortion is wrong and many instances where God calls us to follow him and do his will.


Though you thoughts are heartfelt, they are dangerous. You should not continue to follow the pro life agenda, because now you know it causes death.
Reply:first off, we choicers KNOW when life starts. it started millions of years ago. however, personhood DOES NOT begin until viability/birth. therefore, until then the fetus is not a person, only a potential person. also, no one denies that the fetus is seperate from the woman. HOWEVER, the fetus is within the woman and is leeching off her body. it's HER body, not the fetus', therefore it's HER choice on whether or not the fetus remains in her body. third, that passage from the bible refers to an unauthorized abortion. NOWHERE in the bible does it say 'thou shall not abort thy fetus'. in fact, your god's the biggest abortionist of all. he aborts pregnancies all the time. they're called miscarriages.
Reply:i think its wrong. god doesnt make mistakes.if you get pregnant your intended to have a baby if not for you then for an infertile couple.it should be illegalized.the minute the sperm hits egg,there is a life.

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